Talk:Abby and Brittany Hensel

Abby Hensel got married?

I just came across a headline on my phone that Abby got married back in 2021. I checked on line and there are several media outlets saying the same thing. This should be looked into for verification. I checked their alleged Facebook Page. I do not believe that it is their FB page. There is very little on it. Nosehair2200 (talk) 23:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I do not see any WP:Reliable sources that state this. I believe it is untrue gossip. See also WP:V. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

There are now multiple sources reporting that Abby married in 2021 including the NBC Today programme, which broke the story, People magazine and many others. At least some of these sources are usually regarded as reliable. Photos that appear to be from the event are on TikTok. Prh47bridge (talk) 16:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

The Today.com article is inadequate. They say that they saw a public document, but state: "TODAY.com reached out to Abby for comment but did not get an immediate response." They also rely on HIS social media but not the twins'. PEOPLE is even worse, as they rely entirely on Today. Please cite any other source here that you think is a WP:RS. I will be happy to look at it. See also WP:BLP. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree with this cautious approach. There are good reasons to be very sceptical about this. If it was true then it would have got a lot more coverage. Also, it just sounds so unlikely that we definitely need very good sourcing before we can use it. --DanielRigal (talk) 17:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

How much ccoverage would you like? From the comments posted until now it seems like deliberately want to ignore the news and want to impose impossible high standards for what you feel is a "reliable source". So here's regular news mediatelling about the marriaige: NZ Herald, NBC (affiliate of Today' show, E Online, AU Lifestyle, etc etc etc. 62.163.176.93 (talk) 20:49, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Please WP:AGF. It is not a convincing argument to accuse other editors considering this issue of "deliberately want[ing] to ignore the news". WP:Reliable sources is a guideline here on Wikipedia. See also the policy (part of WP:BLP) and rules cited by User:Melmann, and try to make a civil argument. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I just reverted a pending edit including this information on WP:NPF and WP:LPI grounds.

I think we need to be very careful here. I'm not even sure that the subjects of this article qualify as public figures, but the spouse certainly does not. If this event happened in 2021, and the news is only picking it up now, it would seem to indicate that they were not interested in disseminating it. I think there's an argument here to err on the side of privacy. Melmann 20:47, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, every single source cited so far appears to rely on The Today Show's assertion that an unidentified "public record" says they are married, and Today states that they asked the twins for confirmation but they did not respond. On the other hand, the photos and video of the wedding dance from other people's social media are pretty convincing. So, I'm torn. I have reached out to an admin for his opinion. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

The admin suggested that we take it to WP:BLPN. -- Ssilvers (talk) 12:02, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

There are now multiple mainstream sources that, although they rely on Today, accept this as fact, and, in addition, the twins have posted more than one recent social media messages with photos of them with their new husband and adding this hashtag: #marriage. See US Weekly, People, Parade, The Telegraph, ET, E!. I think we should add it now, perhaps saying that Today "reported" that it occurred in 2021. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

This is now in plenty of reliable sources, including several of high reliability (The Independent, People, NZ Herald, NBC and the Telegraph are all High Reliability on WP:RS/P). I can't see any reason to omit it. Abby is a public figure, she's starred in a reality series. As in everything, we follow the sources - if we want we can put it as "It was reported in 2024 that...", but the amount of analysis going on in this section of whether we think reliable sources have good enough reasons for reporting what they are reporting seems way out of line with Wikipedia policy. TSP (talk) 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Associated note - it's now in a few sources, including Yahoo which is listed on WP:RS/P as reliable, that Abby changed her surname to Bowling when she married. I don't think this is well established in sources yet, and they don't seem to be using it publicly themselves (e.g. Instagram page title is still 'Abby and Brittany Hensel') so I don't think we should change anything yet; but we should keep an eye on whether this becomes general usage and we should consider changing the page title. TSP (talk) 00:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. BTW, Yahoo, in this case, was just sharing an article from In Touch Weekly, a celebrity gossip magazine. It would certainly be better to wait for a couple of more rigorous news organizations to report it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I just looked on YouTube and I am having a hard time believing that it is the same girls. The alleged conjoined twins wearing the bridal gown look different compared to any other photos or videos. The pictures look like it is photo shopped. If this turns out to be some sort of sick joke, I feel sorry for those girls. This is why we need absolute proof. Here is a picture of the twins and another picture that is also supposed to be them. Honestly, looking at the pictures, I think that someone pulled a major hoax and people are believing it. I personally believe that the ones in the wedding dress are not the Hensel twins. I'll leave it for all of you to decide. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3a/05/19/3a0519c989ba060633506ac15cbad203.jpg --Nosehair2200 (talk) 03:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

They are a dozen years older in the wedding photo than in the old photo you are comparing it with. All the major news media who have covered this accept that they are the same twins, and the refs that we cite in the article are WP:RSs. Indeed, I have not seen a single WP:RS that questions this, so stop listening to trolls on social media. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Abby and Brittany Hensel pregnant?

Abby and Brittany Hensel pregnant Nosehair2200 (talk) 20:05, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I've not watched the video but based on the title, and the fact that it comes from a non-notable gossip channel that can't even decide whether its name is Stars News or Spotlight Entertainment, both of which are red links, this all seems incredibly unlikely. If you look at other videos on that channel several of them are quite obviously horseshit. They seem to enjoy speculating that various celebrities are near death, which is cruel and ghoulish. If any actual Reliable Sources cover it then we can reconsider it but let's not do anything to encourage rumours without Reliable Sources. I'm sure that the Hensels find people speculating about them to be irksome. Just because they did a couple of documentaries a few years back does not give everybody free licence to speculate wildly about their personal lives. DanielRigal (talk) 23:11, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, we would need a very reliable source. Ssilvers (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

To be quite honest, I absolutely agree with you. I believe that all of this is a load of crap and we need actual proof. a short clip of the three of them dancing at their alleged wedding is not proof. Where did they get married? Where are the pictures of them getting married? Where are the wedding videos? For all anybody knows, they could have been guests at someone else's wedding. --Nosehair2200 (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

No picture

There are a lot of pictures of Abby and Brittany Hasel on the internet, so why is there still no picture on the wiki to this date? Coughers (talk) 18:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

We can't just take other people's copyrighted images and use them in Wikipedia. The last time I looked there were no images which were licensed in a way that we could use. Searching now (using Duck Duck Go Image Search) I see some images that claim to be licensed under a Creative Commons licence but they come from blogs which I doubt have rights to those images. Even then, only some specific CC licences are compatible with Wikipedia. Feel free to dig into this further if you want to but I don't hold out much hope of finding anything we can use. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

User:Coughers, see WP:IUP. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:43, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

There used to be a picture in this article I thought. It was an anatomical drawing of them as children. Not sure why it's gone now. 125.168.22.109 (talk) 05:29, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Where are Abby & BritanyHensel

Where are Abby & Brittany Hensel and Abby’s Husband today,jobs,health,circumstances. In my searching, I came across Abby’s death in 2024 and an article about Abby & Brittany’s death, but found nothing concrete. Where are they (Abby, Brittany, the Husband and family) today, Feb 2025 and their circumstances: Safe, Happy, Healthy, Successful??? And, if they all have not passed away, what about future endeavors?? MaryKay2788 (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

As of today, Sunnyside Elementary still lists them as teachers at that school [1]. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:12, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

This People article from January 4, 2025, indicates that nothing much is new since the wedding. AOL notes that there is currently a pregnancy rumor, but it is just a rumor. There are no reliable sources that mention death. BTW, Wikipedia has strict guidelines against repeating "speculation, rumors, or presumptions" in our articles, especially in biography articles. See WP:BLP. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)